tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post8998101510679794613..comments2023-12-22T13:30:36.156-08:00Comments on Padanian-American League: Constantino Brumidi: Artist of the CapitolUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-5750904245752697472012-07-31T13:35:41.823-07:002012-07-31T13:35:41.823-07:00Well, it makes sense that Rome has had those chang...Well, it makes sense that Rome has had those changes because of its relative proximity to the south.<br /><br />Well, to be sure, Rome has had immigrants from other regions, as well, like Emilia and Veneto. Enrico Fermi's father was Emilian, for example.<br /><br />Point is that it is not easy to find authentic Romans in the city. There are still some left in Rome's periphery as well as Ciociaria, I would reckon. <br /><br />As for as the Viterbese, well, they are more like Umbrians and southern Tuscans than Latins.Etrusco-Umbro-Gallicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-44390162778724468462012-07-31T13:26:51.276-07:002012-07-31T13:26:51.276-07:00As far as the sack of Rome goes, I think many or e...As far as the sack of Rome goes, I think many or even most of the actual troops as well as the skilled administrative staff were, of non-Germanic stock. Gallic? Probably. Or even Dacian since Gothic forces migrated across the region. Most likely of Y-haplotype R1B, which is not really associated with Nordicity.<br /><br />The nobility was Germanic, however.Etrusco-Umbro-Gallicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-60413009889447224532012-07-31T13:17:49.661-07:002012-07-31T13:17:49.661-07:00Well, by Italic tribes, I was talking about the tr...Well, by Italic tribes, I was talking about the tribes who spoke Indo-European languages distinct from Celtic: Veneti, Umbri, Piceni, Sabini, Latini, and Sanniti. I am not implying they were significantly different, racially, than the Etruscans. Probably not the case. <br /><br />And, yes, they moved down across the peninsula. Samnites really branched off from the Umbri and migrated southward where they later mixed with and were assimilated by the Greeks in the area(and later Levantine immigrants).<br /><br />The question of whether they were Alpine or not is a good one. It makes sense. But they could also have been "Emilian". Emilia, after all, is supposed to have been the center of the Villanovan civilization, the supposed precursor of various later peoples of Italy. Emilia was also an integral area of the Etruscan civilization.<br /><br />But, then again,supposing this is true, where did they come from to eventually settle in Emilia?Etrusco-Umbro-Gallicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-42100194168519857912012-07-25T18:39:53.162-07:002012-07-25T18:39:53.162-07:00I wasn't aware that Rome had changed in that w...I wasn't aware that Rome had changed in that way. I had just heard a few stores about how many authentic modern Romans were unhappy about this migration.Camunlynxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15014252675296665669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-87983934207753954082012-07-25T18:35:36.225-07:002012-07-25T18:35:36.225-07:00A lot of groups are loosely called "Italic tr...A lot of groups are loosely called "Italic tribes," but were descended from ancient "Alpines" I think. In addition, modern demographic names would have meant something different in the ancient world. For example, a "Syrian" would likely have meant a Phoenician-type. Also, there were Gaulish and Germanic tribes who sacked Rome at its end.Camunlynxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15014252675296665669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-36930711616713947072012-07-13T18:11:38.234-07:002012-07-13T18:11:38.234-07:00That statement incorrectly implies something else,...That statement incorrectly implies something else, as well. <br /><br />It implies, somehow, that, by contrast, Ancient Rome was southern, or Mediterranean, in character. Again, not quite true. <br /><br />In the Republic days, besides Etruscans("northern"), Rome was inhabited by Latins, Volsci, and others like Sabines and Umbrians. None of these Italic tribes were Mediterranean folks, in my opinion. Their respective cultures were characterized by small settlements, emphasis on courage and honesty, and a great degree of individualism. <br /><br />Rome became more "Mediterranean", or "Southern", during the Empire days when thousands of Greeks, Jews, Syrians, Berbers, Egyptians, etc. moved into the city and came to constitute an overall majority of its free citizens.<br />Plus, there was the large Near Eastern slave population in the city. <br /><br />Btw, slavery on a massive scale is something the Italic tribes learned from those aforementioned Mediterranid people.Etrusco-Umbro-Gallicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3374992234413424909.post-70002750383759999022012-07-13T18:03:27.202-07:002012-07-13T18:03:27.202-07:00"Modern Romans are Northern in character"..."Modern Romans are Northern in character".<br /><br />Well, not quite correct and let me explain why. Actually, what do you mean by "modern"? <br /><br />Since the 1970s, a lot of Sicilians, Neapolitans, and Pugliese migrated to Rome(due to its relative proximity) and now account for the majority of people's ancestry there. The current mayor of Rome is Pugliese. <br /><br />But, yes, during the Dark Ages, Medieval era,early modern era and and even into the early 20th century, yes, Rome was "Northern" in character---like Tuscany or Umbria.Etrusco-Umbro-Gallicnoreply@blogger.com